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OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:21 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
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Well expensive, interesting that it has the non spring SD type prop.

Must be a transition motor I guess.

Could the tank be the correct one?

H-A

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:05 pm
by Oyster 49
It's a brass early post war one, SDP, or early D, C or AC/AD. correct carb, but cylinder looks very corroded. Magneto looks ok.

Trying it on at that price. Is there no number? Can't see. could this be a bitsa, with SD cases built from bits with a correct bottom casting and cylinder etc? I really hope nobody from here pays £400 for that.

I paid £150 for an ON last summer in an open auction. Get real folks.

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:31 pm
by Mike Killay
Cannot find it, has it been removed?

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:43 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
It is still there, but price has been dropped to only £375.00.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-Seagu ... 4ae881c2b4

H-A

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:04 am
by Adrian Dale
Number looks very faint.. OP 3XX ??
Re the carb trumpet: I note the saw cut again closet to the mouth.. is this original? I presume it was to provide some method of chocking?
Note the flywheel nut is heavily flattened indicating some one has had a go at removing the flywheel.

AJ

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:07 am
by Hugz
Seagullrestorer from Dover is one of us 8)

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4948&p=40501#p40501

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:34 am
by Charles uk
AJ not a saw cut just the shape.

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:36 am
by Adrian Dale
so is this slot/cut original? it doesn't seem to be evident on all trumpet intakes?

AJ

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:32 am
by Horsley-Anarak
Adrian Dale wrote:so is this slot/cut original? it doesn't seem to be evident on all trumpet intakes?

AJ
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Looks like it has been cut with a hack saw, thread looks a bit knackered as well.

H-A

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:49 am
by Charles uk
Sorry didn't see that saw cut, that is a war time trumpet, the pre war one narrows down after the thread.

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:03 pm
by Oyster 49
By the time that one has been bought collected and restored then you are going to be in for at least £950....

buying and collection - £400+
Magneto rebuild parts - £100
Tank build from parts - £200+
chroming leg and exhaust - £100
transom bracket - £75? If you can find one that is..
Skeg weld repair -£25+
misc parts HT lead, decal, throttle cable, paint etc. - £50

we really need to stop this ridiculous run of selling prices. To me that is a £100 engine. Beyond that you are just throwing money away. Daft thing is it may be post the Marston era, the switchover from Marston to British Seagull does seem a little fluid.

If we enthusiasts refuse to pay such prices then the whole bubble could burst and we can get on with enjoying our interest in these engines. The Swordfish sold recently for £13 is a far more interesting engine!

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:23 pm
by Niander101
I wish id kept the one I sold to Skytoyman :cry: That was more original and a runner!
think it went for about £230...carnt remember exactly .
Why the silly saw cut...maybe for some sort of silly choke slotted in there?
I haven't seen Skytoyman on here for a while?

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:15 pm
by flyguy
£950! That is expensive, its maybe because idiots like me pay stupid money
I thaught my 40 - was a bargain, engine and delivery for £102
are the prices going up because its Springtime?
I see some expensive stuff
like
161672926126 starting at £190
Then I see this 141639986423 going for £50 too powerful for me
What prices do the experts think right for a 25/1 40 plus

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:21 pm
by Oyster 49
prices are going up because people are prepared to pay. I hope the individual who paid over £600 for a OP is cursing now. Because that was ridiculous in the extreme. What's that going to owe him by the time it is fully restored? think about it.

£190 starting price for a clutched 40 plus is a non starter. reduce it to 0.99 and put a £125 reserve and that one will go, as that model is a nice one to own.

People are seeing $ and trying it on. If buyers say NO then we will get reality back. remember a lot of people selling on eBay are not really enthusiasts they are doing it to make a few bob on the side, we generally know who they are.

enthusiasts swap and sell amongst themselves at "between enthusiasts" prices.

Re: OP on the bay at the moment

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:16 pm
by flyguy
£600 Have a look at the one on gum-tree tonight
£785 :shock:
when I say look, you can't actually see any pics or a model number :roll: