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Cleaning the Garage

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Hi,

Just joined the site to try and gather some information. My Grandfather gave me this motor years ago and it has been sitting in my garage for the past 20 years. I think it is time for it to move on to a new home but don't really know anything about it or how best to find it a new home where it will be appreciated.

From looking on this site, I believe it is an early model 40. The identifier app says that it is from 1966 but after looking at the list of serials provided on the I.D. Letters page, I think it is a 1956 motor.

I have not tried to start it yet, but it looks to be in great condition.

Would appreciate any advice, including any thoughts about the value of the engine.

thanks

Mike
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Re: Cleaning the Garage

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Adding a few more pics

Mike
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Hi and welcome to the forum.

That looks in very nice condition, low hours use, no salt water, west coast dry stored.

I would think you should be looking for $200-$300, not a rare model but that looks untouched.

Get it running, when it starts you may decide to keep it, also it will sell better as running.


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WOW

That has to be the most honest looking, un-molsted, original looking motor i've seen in a long while. Looks as though it's hardly been used!
Would you look at that tank and the decal :P Just about perfect (except for the small dent)

Save for the odd mark here and there that's a real beauty.

H-A's right of course. See if you can get it running before you sell it. (plenty of help from us) You never know, the bug might bite and you'll be looking for another one to keep it company :lol:


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Yes, a nice tidy engine. Worth keeping..

Just give it a general service and its ready to use. We can help if you wish.
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Hi M, great find in really good condition for its age I have one the same year and am in the process of restoring hopefully to the condition of what you have found in your shed. I paid $150 AUS for mine but looks very neglected. You can see in the pic, the chrome is shot, cable up the creek and fuel tank is knocked about unlike yours. Just thought I would give you a comparison image. Hope this helps. Oh, also when you start working on Seagulls with help from the forum it becomes so interesting. But when you get them on a boat it becomes (well words escape me). 8)
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Sorry the image didn't post hope it works this time.
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My two cents

It owes you nothing but is really nice.

My suggestion is keep it and try to run it sometimes during.

Seeing it owes you nothing and you should keep it.................just that inaction on your part will annoy many of us aye!

If you sell it, the old adage is .......that you will not have one!

Good stuff!

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A great example in of an original and unmolested Seagull in my humble opinion.

It would be nice to be able to find on in such condition occasionally. Unfortunately in Australia, those occurrences seem to be few and far between ..... at least for me anyway :(

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PS: if you decide to sell, please consider advertising in the free classifieds section at Aomci.org

At least that way, you can be assured it will go to a good home.

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Thanks all for the great replies. I'll see if it starts and go from there.

I would love to keep it for nostalgic reasons, but sitting in my garage seems like such a shame when it could be put to good use by someone like yourselves that can truly appreciate it.

I'll keep you all posted.

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Not A shame at all Mike!

Run it!

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Hello Mike

As others have said, you have a very nice motor!
From the research I have conducted, I'd say that it would be a 1966.
The serial coding with letters in the serial number came in to effect around 1960/61, before that there was just a numbered serial code (if that makes sense).

For example, I have SJP 22051 which is a 1959 motor, and SJP 654 H5 which is a August 1965 motor - the 'n' is slightly confusing in the fact that (again from my research) seagull used the letters "A to L" for every month in the year; A being January, B is February etc.

Do you mind if I enter your motor onto my data collection for SJP's document? I have just about all the data needed from the pics you've posted, so if it's ok with you I'll log the data as soon as I get back from holiday.

All the best with it

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BP
I think you'll find the letters & year designator as part of the serial number started January 1963!

So

SJP 123 A3 was Jan 1963.
A = Jan
B = Feb
C = Mar
D = Apr
E = May
F = Jun
G = Jul
H = Aug
J = Sept
K = Oct
L = Nov
M = Dec

Please note the letter I was not used!

In 1973 it changed to AA, double letters, in 83 to single letters again & in 93 back to double letters.

So if you've got a featherweight with this serial number EF 123 A3 it must be 1983 as 63 is too early for a CDI!
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Re: Cleaning the Garage

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Whoops, yes you're right Charles, I got confused...
Still the "n" doesn't make sense in the serial # - maybe a mis-stamp, I'm not sure.

Does anyone else have a seagull with the letter "n" in the date code?

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