Saving Old Seagulls

RE. Does anyone know here the correct name for the Green Paint applied to flywheel?

IRR GREEN SATIN LRC553.
A traditional single part Synthetic Coach Enamel paint. This was used by the Army, RAF, & Royal Navy, occasionally over-painting NATO Green Gloss.

May or may not be the correct answer.

Try humbrol (86) matt

I've seen 6 or 7 examples of SD's displaying varying amounts of "army green" paint & they all appeared to be slightly different shades of Army green, I doubt very much if there ever was an exact specification for this colour.

Mauriziopiras, I think when Hugz asked what the extension tiller arm was made of, he meant the black tube in the bottom of your box.

Could you let us know if there is a JM number on the magneto base plate & whether it's the same as the flywheel JM number?

I would think the paint colour is standard olive drab.

https://paintman.co.uk/shop/olive-drab-matt/ or https://militaryvehiclepaint.co.uk/index.php
used for decades by the British Army.

Interesting find Is the box date AUG 1945 ?

VE day was 8th May 1945, so if the crate was painted in August 1945 that was after victory in Europe, so would have arrived in Italy a few week later overland via Calais.

Who were C D P and Co Ltd ? I would not think that army issue equipment would need the have company branding perhaps.

I thought the carry handle was a later item http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/no ... sories.jpg

I cant see 2 soldiers carrying an SD, when it must weigh less than a Bren gun.

This is a fantastic find in Italy, but I feel that the important research needs to be about "C D P & Co Ltd" who were they ?

H-A

The tank has GDP on it, and we have seen that before, if I recall from engines found in the Netherlands. Didn’t we come up with a theory 6 or 7 years ago that this could be some sort of post war assistance programme. Is the C on the box a G?

Chas is probably right about the paint not being specific now i think of it. I own grey fergie tractors and are early- mid 50's and i know that the paint used in the ferguson factory was all leftover battleship paint and there were probably at least 10 different shades used.

Read the book 50 shades of gray no fergies or battleships mentioned

Ok. Two more questions for registry. Does she have the CIESS skeg stamp and what material is the carburetor float bowl lid?

Thanks.

Yes, it has CIESS skeg stamp. I will post a photo if the skeg stamp.
Carb float bowl lid is ali made.
Cheers
Maurizio

mick r wrote:RE. Does anyone know here the correct name for the Green Paint applied to flywheel?

IRR GREEN SATIN LRC553.
A traditional single part Synthetic Coach Enamel paint. This was used by the Army, RAF, & Royal Navy, occasionally over-painting NATO Green Gloss.

May or may not be the correct answer.

Thank you Mick R.

not quite what I was expecting (eg Defence Green, Olive Drab etc) but it will set me in the right direction.

Regards,
Spiro

Charles uk wrote:I've seen 6 or 7 examples of SD's displaying varying amounts of "army green" paint & they all appeared to be slightly different shades of Army green, I doubt very much if there ever was an exact specification for this colour.

Mauriziopiras, I think when Hugz asked what the extension tiller arm was made of, he meant the black tube in the bottom of your box.

Could you let us know if there is a JM number on the magneto base plate & whether it's the same as the flywheel JM number?

Hi Charles,

If it is an Olive Drab as suggested by HA, it will vary significantly eg from green to brown, subject to lighting. I've had no end of matching paint for my Commando for that very reason.

I've also been told by some in the paint trade that Drab colors cannot be computer recognised and matched. To that end, matching is often done by eye, and that of course can lead to further variation.

Regards,
Spiro

I am loving this SD more and more.

Tank decal, carry handle, bronze skeletal bracket (albeit top section looks a little different to the usual), markings on the crate etc etc.

I'll leave it to you guys to explain those things and how they fit in with what we know eg is it wartime or post war?

Great find Maurizio!

Regards,
S

Really great find!
I fullheartedly envie you Maurizio, as I am from Lago Maggiore and interested in old engines.
Congratulazioni!

Sandro

Hi Sandro,

It was a lucky find. This kind of engins is not so common in Italy.
In the last days I saw a splendid De Giorgi - Varazze bicilindric outboard. I want it!!!!
Mi fa piacere condividere questa passione.
Per scambiare qualche opinione sentiamoci anche via mail. La mia mail è mau.pir@tiscali.it

Cari saluti

Maurizio