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Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby Gannet » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:10 am

BS records indicate that approx. 38243 off Early Series Forty engines of the range F, FV, FVP, LM and LS were produced.
However the really odd thing is that I am only aware of one production LM - and that is LM29941, which is in my garage.
The LM is quite simply an LS with the smaller 10:21 gearbox and the shorter length tubes and pipe. Ie it is the 'minus' model between the FV and the SJM.
So, why does it not appear that there are more LMs out and about? Surely there must have been a lot of them produced? Somebody must have one. Does anybody know of another one?

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby cookie1 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:07 am

Hi Jeremy

Interesting post , what tank does the LM have and what tiller ?

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby Oyster 49 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:36 am

I recall seeing one on eBay a while back. Also hasn’t the “other” Charles got one? It does seem very that so few are about though. Why start making a minus model in some numbers, stop and then start again later?

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby Gannet » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:07 pm

Hi John,
Its got the same tank as later LSs ie with the sharper edge rads compared to the early LSs. It has a brass 10" tiller as per the LS. It will be like your LS30524.

How is yr FV?


Hi Adrain,
Are you sure it was an LM on e bay? With a replacement 'modern' head it looks like a later FV.
Yes, Charles has an LM, which I believe that I am right in saying, that Charles thinks was put together later and used an odd serial number. I hope that I am being fair in regarding it as not a production LM. Please correct me Charles if I have got that wrong.

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby cookie1 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:53 pm

Thanks Jeremy I'll watch out for them . My FV unfortunately remains untouched but not forgotten !

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby seagull101 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:57 pm

There was one on facebook about a year ago.

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby Gannet » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:43 pm

Jacob,
Thanks for your interesting observation about the one on facebook.
Was it advertised as an LM, or did you find out its serial number? Was it a matter of you visually identifying it as an LM, without knowing its serial number?


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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby cookie1 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:19 pm

Hi Jeremy

There is an original looking FVP on shpock in Vale of Whitehorse . I can't share the link sorry

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby Gannet » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:49 pm

John,
Thanks for the photo of the FVP. Are you able to find out it's serial number?

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby cookie1 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:17 pm

Jeremy its FVP7896 , I'm assuming it's still available as the listing is still active

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby Gannet » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:53 pm

Thanks John. I wasn't able to find it on e bay, but it doesn't matter, as I have got sufficient info on it.
I did bump into FVP6317, which is for sale in Oban. It was previously on e bay in December 2018.

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby cookie1 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:27 pm

Thats good , it is on the ' shpock' selling site if anyone is interested but is collection only or I would have bought it

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby seagull101 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:02 pm

Gannet wrote:Jacob,
Thanks for your interesting observation about the one on facebook.
Was it advertised as an LM, or did you find out its serial number? Was it a matter of you visually identifying it as an LM, without knowing its serial number?


Jeremy


Yeah there was a photo of the serial number

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Re: Rare (?) Early Series Forty

Postby Gannet » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:25 am

Thanks Jacob,

I wish I had seen that. I am very keen on recording as many Early Series Forty outboards as I can, so that the information can be collated and more can be found out about this series. If you see another one, let me know! Thanks.

Jeremy


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