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Ebay 200730028517

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Its very nicely done, I think its always hard to get the money back that they put into the restoration, most of the time that money is lost.
I still would rather have one unrestored and spend my time and money on it, rather than having it already done, that's half the enjoyment.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200730028517? ... 3D1&_rdc=1

What was the difference between the AC and C and the AD and D? Or are these an in between motor after the SD?

Not too happy with the water return in the plastic tube to the front of the exhaust tube and flywheel cover should be blank. Wouldn't take much to get it original.

Nice restoration, and not many early post war engines of that period about. Not sure the asking price is achievable though....

I think hed get it but as he has "make offer" on it
he will be offerd a bit less

its worth the money hes spent loads on it

were the transom brackets ever painted?

Now that is a very tastefull restoration of a nice early 102, would like to see the prop though.
I wouldn't be ashamed to own that!
Very nice.

Sorry Charles,

A very nice shiny polished early 102 with the wrong starting pulley, flywheel cover, magneto base plate/coil, fuel pipe, water pipe, throttle lever, clutch lever, support lug/cap, V strut, prop and probably the cylinder.

Lower parts looks good apart from the prop.

Jan

Jan wrote:Sorry Charles,

A very nice shiny polished early 102 with the wrong starting pulley, flywheel cover, magneto base plate/coil, fuel pipe, water pipe, throttle lever, clutch lever, support lug/cap, V strut, prop and probably the cylinder.

Lower parts looks good apart from the prop.

Jan

And wrong tiller grip, any more

H-A

When I originally posted I obviously hadn't had a proper look..

I have to agree about the magneto base plate and cover etc, but the coil would be the same. The points inside it would be the captive bolt type.

The tank would be a bayonet fit, so the tank is wrong. The straps are stainless, but the originals would have been Jubilee clips on this one. The fuel line would have been metal.

The tank support brackets I'm not sure about, but I think on that one they were cast aluminium.

The block - who knows, I can't see it properly in the photos, but it would have had the brass penny-slot core plugs.

The tiller arm grip would have been the thinner type, I'm not convinced the throttle is wrong.

The whole bracket6 and support assembly isn't original to the motor. A 'C' would have been the bronze skeletal type. Even had the one fitted been original it would have been bent bronze thumbscrews, and the plastic support lug would have been aluminium.

I can't make out the prop, like the other Charles, but it looks like a 'bow-tie' type, which wouldn't be fitted to that type of exhaust. I'll have to have a rummage around to look at gearboxes, but for the moment I reckon the gearbox has too few oil nipples for the year - it should, I think, be the same as an SD box.

I can't remember if the exhaust clamp should have a shoulder at that date, but the water return pipe would have been metal.

That motor certainly needs a Bakelite plug cap.

Footnote - It's nice to see a repro decal used on this one, it's a nicely finished tank, too. But you can see that the broad style of tank strap doesn't allow a central placement of the new decal. It's only a fraction out but it's noticeable. I wonder what the effect of using the narrower straps might be?

I wasn't going to tear it to bits, the vendor was honest about what he done, it's a good looking restoration.
Not perfect but no lies.

And he spent a fortune on new bits!
But yes not original

From what I have read so far, it doesn't sound 75% original.
This type of motor would probably be bought by someone that likes the look of a newly restored, 75% genuine motor, but what is the buyer getting, not what he thinks.
Not that the motor is not very nicely restored, but would the comments be the same for a £500 Marston listed as 75% original in the same circumstances.

Nice job, i would be cheesed off if i had to sell after a job like that!
Anyone know when they stopped using Terry jubilee clip type tank straps SD style?
Is it me or is the transfer off centre, to large or are the tank straps to wide?
Not nit picking just a general comment

Would rather have this one, at least I could have £200+ left to spend on paint and parts.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/British-Seagu ... 1c24fc9c4a

Well thats the thing isnt it some people dont have the time or ability to make one up for themselves so you pays the money and away you go
with a smart old seagull on the stern...easy no hassle...

That's an SD eh ...somewhere in there is an SD
very interesting tank!
carb
wrong ignition unit
transom bracket
but hey deep down its an SD and people round here seem to like them...