fish farm in our loch
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- Williegunn
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Re: fish farm in our loch
Still think these farms cause little damage, watch this clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POQYvwoVkS8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POQYvwoVkS8
- Charles uk
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Re: fish farm in our loch
What I was saying poorly, was that a five time the current prices for wild salmon they become a very attractive prey species.
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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Re: fish farm in our loch
Fish is a Fish.
I do not want a Locke to be stuffed up however. Kind off gets out of hand that.
Save the Locke I say.
A Fish is Still a Fish however.
I like Fish.
With Chips!
West Coast Australia is a no fishing zone from now.................I tend NOT to agree with that!
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I do not want a Locke to be stuffed up however. Kind off gets out of hand that.
Save the Locke I say.
A Fish is Still a Fish however.
I like Fish.
With Chips!
West Coast Australia is a no fishing zone from now.................I tend NOT to agree with that!
B
A chicken is one egg's way of becoming others
- Williegunn
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Re: fish farm in our loch
You can still have your fish farms to produce the frankenstein fish but they ought to be a closed container system on land, the technology is there it just needs the will to make it work.Charles uk wrote:What I was saying poorly, was that a five time the current prices for wild salmon they become a very attractive prey species.
- The Tinker
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Re: fish farm in our loch
Nicer quality fish when grown in the sea, I say let the fish farm go ahead to feed the masses as it wont happen in my back yard





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Re: fish farm in our loch
It might do Andy, the Med is full of Tuna pens.
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
- Williegunn
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Re: fish farm in our loch
I hope your outboard seizes as it won't happen in my back yardThe Tinker wrote:Nicer quality fish when grown in the sea, I say let the fish farm go ahead to feed the masses as it wont happen in my back yard![]()
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Re: fish farm in our loch
willie
Sadly, I agree with almost everything you said, and I agree with the proposition that it would be 'better' for fish farms to be 'contained'.
I was merely responding to some of your comments regarding the pellets vs 'wild' food idea. Chemicals are chemicals, whether they are sourced from crunching wild invertebrates or from manufactured pellets.
The flesh may not be as pink in a farmed salmon without adding the same chemicals that cause the wild fish to go pink, but it is otherwise chemically identical.
And the thread was about the 'appearance' of the farm on the otherwise pristine loch.....not a debate about whether or not fish should or should not be farmed.
As I said previously, the best thing for the locals to do is find some seagrass or local wildlife or whatever that exists nowhere else, and have the pens moved out of the way.
And Bruce, while I also agree to some extent with the anti-fishing-bans arguments, they are there for a reason - to protect the juveniles so the stocks of fish don't crash.
OK, so it's not recreational anglers fault that the stocks are crashing - no argument from me there - but until there is some way to get all recreational fishermen to adopt catch-and-release there is bugger all chance of getting some bans lifted.
That said, check the legals...a lot of fuss has been made about bans that pertain to certain areas, but they only target certain species, or do not cover catch-and-release angling by recreational fishers.....so worth double-checking....
But, yeah, it's a bummer that the depredations of the Japanese, Chinese, Taiwanese and Korean (etc etc) fishing fleets have caused these bans on our local inshore fisheries.
And as I said previously, if the south-east-asian nations' populations increase as they have done in recent years - they being the largest consumers of the larger pelagic fish - so the pressure on those stocks will continue to grow, and numbers in the wild populations will continue to fall.....it is foreseeable that a total fishing ban may yet come into being for ALL our coastal waters, perhaps even as far out as the 100m limit......although I suspect that's a century or so away, so nothing for us to worry about....
And for the UK readers, remember the Icelandic 'Fishing Wars' from 20 or so years ago???
We may yet see armed patrol boats covering the fishing zones much more closely than they do today....and they do....today...so don't think it isn't happening just because it's not on the 6-oclock news.
Sadly, I agree with almost everything you said, and I agree with the proposition that it would be 'better' for fish farms to be 'contained'.
I was merely responding to some of your comments regarding the pellets vs 'wild' food idea. Chemicals are chemicals, whether they are sourced from crunching wild invertebrates or from manufactured pellets.
The flesh may not be as pink in a farmed salmon without adding the same chemicals that cause the wild fish to go pink, but it is otherwise chemically identical.
And the thread was about the 'appearance' of the farm on the otherwise pristine loch.....not a debate about whether or not fish should or should not be farmed.
As I said previously, the best thing for the locals to do is find some seagrass or local wildlife or whatever that exists nowhere else, and have the pens moved out of the way.
And Bruce, while I also agree to some extent with the anti-fishing-bans arguments, they are there for a reason - to protect the juveniles so the stocks of fish don't crash.
OK, so it's not recreational anglers fault that the stocks are crashing - no argument from me there - but until there is some way to get all recreational fishermen to adopt catch-and-release there is bugger all chance of getting some bans lifted.
That said, check the legals...a lot of fuss has been made about bans that pertain to certain areas, but they only target certain species, or do not cover catch-and-release angling by recreational fishers.....so worth double-checking....
But, yeah, it's a bummer that the depredations of the Japanese, Chinese, Taiwanese and Korean (etc etc) fishing fleets have caused these bans on our local inshore fisheries.
And as I said previously, if the south-east-asian nations' populations increase as they have done in recent years - they being the largest consumers of the larger pelagic fish - so the pressure on those stocks will continue to grow, and numbers in the wild populations will continue to fall.....it is foreseeable that a total fishing ban may yet come into being for ALL our coastal waters, perhaps even as far out as the 100m limit......although I suspect that's a century or so away, so nothing for us to worry about....

And for the UK readers, remember the Icelandic 'Fishing Wars' from 20 or so years ago???
We may yet see armed patrol boats covering the fishing zones much more closely than they do today....and they do....today...so don't think it isn't happening just because it's not on the 6-oclock news.
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Re: fish farm in our loch
We have mussel farms around here the best fishing for the fatest fish is around the edges of these farms to there is a up side





Re: fish farm in our loch
In Oz we call them "gymnasiums".....




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