Another Project

[Keith.P]

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That looks a lot better Charles, thanks for them.

I was thinking about making some myself, but you you've saved me all that work.
If I need any more, I will let you know.
Thanks again.

[Oyster 49]

Hey, I'm after a couple of those also, and was going to make new ones.

[Keith.P]

Finished

[Oyster 49]

Excellent job! Nice finish and running very well These early post war 102s are excellent restoration projects! Particularly like the coolie hat

I'm between projects at the moment, was thinking about doing the Ferrier next.

[Niander101]

Great love Youtube vids of these old ones running!
but why does hardly anyone bother uploading for everyone's enjoyment!
how many Marstons on there?
Only 1 !!!......my old one.......
Now skyetoyman's
1 out of all the collectors and enthusiasts on here!
Am i missing something here?


I for one would love to see more! especially one with a teardrop exhaust....running
This situation TBH is poor!

[Keith.P]

Probably because most like the teardrop are too fragile to use and as they are worth complete and that makes parts a problem.
Nice as they are, it's more useful as a clothes horse than an outboard, that's until it's time to sell.




P.S. I don't think we are allowed to mention Marstons on this site, as it seems to put the price up and Marston owners don't seem to like that.

[Charles uk]

Marston owners don't mind you talking up the price Keith, as by definition they already own one or more. They might have a greater chance of recovering some of their investment.
It's only going to disadvantage the new collector who's not aware of the pitfalls & problems & the costs of spares remanufacture that he's likley to encounter

Marstons like all other Seagulls suffer from cylinders that will self distruct like all their younger brothers, if not treated with kid gloves.
Seeing one run in a test tank by an owner that didn't give it a full strip down inspection because it didn't need one, lowered it's value in the collectors marketplace.

I've only run one on the back of a boat & that was after I inspected the water jacket with an endoscope & cleaned out the newly located concretion, only then could I be sure I wasn't going to terminally damage it.

I have not seen any videos of Marstons running on Utube but I have seen pictures of a Seagull that the owner claimed was a Marston even though it was built over a year & 200 + outboards after British Seagull had bought them out, but then he was about to sell it on ebay.

I would argue that being one of the oldest British Seagulls in captivity in running condition would give it a greater value than the dubious pedigree that was being claimed for it.
Being the father of perhaps a million offspring has to be quite a claim to fame!

[Niander101]

but then he was about to sell it on ebay.

Incorrect i had no intention of selling it at that time
i sold it perhaps 6 months later from when that vid was uploaded

Also if an OP is not a Marston why not suggest to John to remove it from the Marston page?

just to clear it up...

[skyetoyman]

As the owner of the said mongrel -- I don't mind what you call it. It will still look good and hopefully run well. Plus give me many hours of enjoyment

[Horsley-Anarak]

As the owner of the said mongrel -- I don't mind what you call it. It will still look good and hopefully run well. Plus give me many hours of enjoyment

Well said.

Some may say an OP is a Marston, some may say it is a Seagull. I have given up listening to opinions about my ON.

Your engine is a rare thing indeed, it makes SDs look very common.

Enjoy it and don't worry about other peoples opinions, It was less expensive than an ipad, and in twenty years time will be worth more than you paid for it.

I only hope the cylinder is sound, I would not let it near the sea if you want to preserve it for future generations.

H-A

[Niander101]

As the owner of the said mongrel.....

poor thing...
I know you will love it mate

Actually i think i got it .
they don't/can't actually occasionally run those things not even in fresh water for fear of damaging it or fear of "loosing value"
how sad i love to see actual working engines
i cannot believe actually that not even one owner of a teardrop exhaust Marston never ever runs it ever
well then they wont need a spark then will they with those slightly dodgy coils[that only last 30 years]
maybe they are in their living rooms at the side of the telly?

Actually thats not a bad idea...don't know what shell say about it though...
In fact thats where my SD's will go and my C286[once they are in fine fettle of course]..stuff what she says!
But ill have to tie it to the wall incase it should fall and kill a child ....

[Keith.P]

That's one of the reasons why I went in the shed, put the 102 together and run it, because I basically got sick of the sight of it! I always wanted an older 102, and even though it started 2nd pull, which was surprising, after a few digs about it having some non-original parts and so being classed as a bitsa, I just wanted it finished and out of the way.

I thought restoring seagulls was a matter of finding the parts and putting it back together how it would have been, but for some on this site this doesn't seem good enough.

[Oyster 49]

I agree, it is great to see these engines being restored and run. I personally enjoy both the sourcing of parts, rebuilding and using these engines.

Keep those videos coming It will keep the seagull scene alive.

[The Tinker]

Dont know why one would worry about the knockers. Most of their engines are only run in rubbish bins, they are so correct that is probably where they belong. I think the most important thing is that one is having fun and using there motors and not just looking at them.

[Collector Inspector]

Outstanding ! Lovely old thing running sweet in a garbage bin as a test for the transom!

Very very nice!

Some interesting comments above I note? I am not quite sure what mind set they are originating from. Old Dears take some time to assemble using good parts. It is not often that any one engine has all of the useable and reliable bits included for a straight restoration and subsequent use.

My FVP is a continuing labor of dedication in getting useable parts on a transom for normal use if possible. There are now 4 outboards making up what I will have as the finished reliable runner. Yes, sourcing parts, speaking with fellow enthusiasts, all the anticipation of getting something in the mail is an outstanding source of enjoyment for me.

At the end of the day.............................the FVP will be as original as I can get it with every component as good as I can fettle. Like my SJM (12 Months work) it will be classed as a reliable user for many years.

My OA will be running on youtube. I have everything in outstanding condition for the power head,including having sets of rings specially made for it. I have chosen the best block that I have to suite the only piston that I have. Fiddly but at the end of the day, very satisfying I hope.

My plan, maybe long term in relation to sorting gearbox bushes replacement, is to end up with an Old man that can be used if wanted.

My plan is to have an old man that will have another 300Hrs service life with no hesitation as to possible "Damage". I will be long gone before then.

I am lucky as I have something complete and other bits grabbed over the years "Just in Case" i would ever need them.

In my case it is not a big ask of it and with the help of the registry the end result will be outstanding.

I look forward to adding to anothers' "journey" along the way.

Time and patience with attention to detail and no bull shit makes an old motor honest.

B