Australian Delivery AC17964

[headdownarseup]

thanks "CAPTAIN"

B its upsidedown?
Flat edge goes up against the block, curved/rounded edge points at the gearbox. nut/bolt (ideally) wants to be in the middle of the 2 tubes so that the "flat" that you mention is what holds onto the clutch rod. some further dissmantling needed (but you knew this didn't you?)

ALL GOOD THOUGH (dont mind me,i spend a LOT of time looking at pics in SUPERVISION)

Old dears are absolutely cool. (if only they could tell their version of history)




ADRIAN
Some nice pics of your AD there. nice to see some original decals. looks in good order from what i can see.
From memory, the tank i refurbished a couple of years ago (a little bit further back in this post) was pretty close to what remains on yours.
BIG SMILE on jon's face right now looking at this

keep going B
Just a few little bits to do and its ready for "first pull video"
cant wait

jon

[Collector Inspector]

I can not find a "Soaking Wet Overboard " smiley.........

B

[Collector Inspector]

Ok

Starting the freshen up visual wise.

The Tiller has the correct grip and correct throttle assy and shows only signs of varnish........no black paint.

Clean up with no paint aye.

And The "Hot Spot" needs to go as well.

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[headdownarseup]

Each to their own with tillers.
Polished and shiny is cool, but painted black is more correct!
Throttle lever is nice. (does it have "AMAL" stamped in the top cover somewhere?)
I'm not sure whether you have the same trouble with correct grips,but getting hold of the right one can take ages. I've looked all over various sites for these and only turned up 3 in the last year(and they were for bicycles not seagulls)
Ht lead looks a modern replacement (but if it works well enough, i wont deduct any points )

"HOT SPOTS" now that really is ugggerly. how do you propose to rectify this eyesore! (i have similar dissfigurations on others and would like to know what you do )

Coming together nicely B


Wont be long now for smoke and noise!

jon

[Adrian Dale]

Jon could you post a couple of photo's of what is the correct tiller grip. I have a ragtag bunch that are different on most of my engines but am not sure what is correct and what is not

AJ

[headdownarseup]

Some different ones here. The 2 on the right are the same.
The earlier grips are quite a bit shorter.To the best of my knowledge there are up to 3 different types but you'll have to look VERY CAREFULLY at the pattern on the grip itself. Most of them were bakelite and are very fragile to even contemplate removal from another tiller (but it can be done, you have to be patient)

In my opinion, the "DOVER" grip is perhaps the better of the early types, but all 3 variations look quite nice and petite. They've also got a lining of card or cardboard inside the grip which ALWAYS disintegrates when removing one of these from an old tiller.A couple of wraps of modern insulation tape at the end of the tiller to give everything a "snug fit" usually works a treat. or you could use a smear of silicone sealant to hold it in place.

The later ones are rubberised and considerably easier to remove/refit. (ugly by comparison but still have their place)

Exactly the same for the 40 range of motors
Pre-war different again (but at the moment i am Marstonless. Unless somebody else can provide a pic or two of a grip/tiller combination)

jon

[Horsley-Anarak]

To the best of my knowledge there are up to 3 different types but

Here are 2 of them

I will keep an eye out for different ones.

H-A

[Collector Inspector]

Amal

Dover......paper is loose. Lucky it is still there actually.

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Quick Edit:

This is what is on my OA. Rubber.

[Collector Inspector]

I was waiting for someone to pick the repair. Nicely done on the outside only. Inside is all iron.

I would guess a factory save.

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[headdownarseup]

B
Are you sure that's a repair and not a casting fault?
Looks quite neatly done all the same.
By the looks it would seem that motors in the southern hemispere stand up better to the ravages of time, less rust/corrosion etc. and the rubber (which would almost
certainly have rotted away by now if it had been in a cooler and damper atmosphere) looks pretty good as well.

Nice pics of grips H-A (like it)
Same dimensions just with different patterns. (eagle eyes at it again )
Sometimes it's the smallest details that get overlooked in the persuit of perfection! (is that TOO anoracky of me)

Keep going B, nearly there
what about the "hot spot" on the exhaust tube? i'm intrigued as to how your going to get rid of this.

JON

[Horsley-Anarak]

I would guess a factory save.

I doubt that the factory would waste time mending the inlet stub.

My guess is a motor falls over in Aus, and the stub is brazed back on rather than junk the motor.

In the UK you may replace the cylinder, but sourcing a new cylinder from Australia may have proved to be not cost effective.

I would grind it back a little and paint it, should be OK.

H-A

[Charles uk]

The original rubber never looked like that one, sorry to say as we're trying to find the best one around, from a very sorry looking bunch to take a mould from.

80 years is a very big ask from rubber!

[headdownarseup]

OK---- so its a repair! (still nicely done though)
Agree with H-A , grind it back a bit so it looks less obvious.
A few coats of black and you'd hardly know


JON

[Collector Inspector]

Yes........A repair.

As I said, inside of the stub has no crack at all. I guessed a machine that maybe had a new tip without checking an end stop afterwards took too deep a run. Wrong before so maybe never know.

I am still mulling over the Hot Spot.

I will not be using anything abrasive as that would be a tad in your face result showing stuffed/too big chrome patch with brass standing out in a "Lump". I will let you know what works in time.

Nasty Stuff Trial "A"........

Now just consider that this is the First "Hot Spot" (British Seagull) I have had to deal with externally. Consider that I am a Commissioning Engineer so I ask the question.. "Why".

The why is rather important to animals such as Us as one may realize..............We earn a living out of that word.

Aside from that as no one will get where I am coming from..............What do you lot think is lurking?

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[Collector Inspector]

The mix "Nasty Stuff A" after 1hour has screwed the Hot Spot by 50% thickness which is what we are after.

Another dose tomorrow and maybe one day after that Aye.

It got so hot the chrome came off the brass......................

But why Would that have happened? Come on people, have a go aye?

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