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pretty old SJP
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:47 pm
by timberman2004
now running a dream ...
so onto cosmetics
Charles'll love this one ...
this engine is 1956 / 1957, so what is the correct tank ? and what is the correct lettering for the magneto disk ...'in the world' or 'for the world' ?
the gear box is a lovely Burma bright one ..if that is correct ?...a far superior casting to the usual
Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:18 pm
by Hugz
This is a LS 1955.
As you say CharlesP will know.
May help.
Cheees Hugo
Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:30 pm
by timberman2004
i think thats a pretty good guide Hugo
sorry I can't repond with pics
camera duff at moment
Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:36 am
by charlesp
I would say that photo is dead right in all aspects. The LS and the SJP overlapped for a while, and while I would expect an SJP to have the Sailorman the LS tanks kept the white bird for a while, so I suspect the company were using up stocks.
The latter end of the LS production used tanks exactly the same as the SJP one, earlier ones had the subtly different flat variation of the FV series' 'canted' oval tank.
Your example looks super, down to the locking wire.
The gearboxes do look good finished off properly instead of the later, cheaper, silver paint.
What sort of prop does this one have?
The SJP should have the sailorman, and by that date probably the 'for' rather than 'in'.
Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:08 am
by Hugz
I've just noticed the " symbols at the beginning and the end of The Best Outboard motor in the World. Isn't the one at the beginning upside down?
Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:13 pm
by timberman2004
well Hugo ....left to you, opticians might as well close up shop
bluddy well spotted ..
well, that's it ..entire collection in the skip !!
if the manufacurer can't be bothered with the small but important details, what else have they omitted ???
just going to check mine .....<<wanders off muttering looking for pipe 'baccy pouch>>
Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:46 pm
by phil
Its obviously an arcane MI 5 code, Hugo
Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:05 am
by Hugz
phil wrote:Its obviously an arcane MI 5 code, Hugo
Gosh you are quite right.. the cold war era... microdots! No wonder little paperwork survives it is at KGB's deciphering branch or worse the Seagull factory was infiltrated and wartime seagulls were bugged and sent on their mission and set to fail after a predetermined time hence the disappearance of the majority of these models.
And why are 102's not mentioned in the Clymer British Seagull service/repair handbook? The plot thickens? And why are the earlier Villiers coils breaking down... and what really is that silica insulator about. It's obvious the coil also acted as a radio beacon. And why are they the hardest coil to remove? Scoff you may but......
Shudder... three crystal sets
Hugo... waiting for the Men in Black to arrive or red, yellow or white, hark... I hear the rubber truck with square wheels outside....over and out.
Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:30 am
by phil
Now we're gettin somewhere!
Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:42 am
by phil
I suspect the " at the start may be a coded reference to a shadowy figure agent 66, while the message Best outboard motor in the world, obviously from agent 99[Get Smart!] must have a deeper meaning than we had previously suspected. As well it strikes me as no coincidence that the Suez crisis of '56 was in progress right about the time that that the message changed to Best outboard motor for the world. As we all know everything has gone downhill since that very time. Look at the slide in Seagull quality since '56!
Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:20 pm
by niander
I think you are all being silly!
btw I have an LS tank if anyones looking for one...has no seagull on the ends...
Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:01 am
by Waggles
I'm sorry but the quotes are correct, opening quotes should be like that and different to closing quotes, its only in these days of pooters n' stuff we have started to make do with one character for both, bring back Copperplate handwriting and fountain pens I say.
Much preferred all the silliness though I have to say

Re: pretty old SJP
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:13 am
by billyboy
has nobody noticed that the quotation marks used on this forum are exactly the same?......upside down which i would have thought was the correct way unless one was writing by hand.pick up any old novel and you will see. these days they often do away with them altogether!
P.S.......... sorry only just realised this was an ancient topic!