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Using EP 140 oil in small Mariner gear box
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:52 pm
by 5876roger
Hi,
Can anyone advise me please, having just bought a seagull I bought 5litres of EP 140 for the gear box, can I use this in a Mariner 2hp as well, I believe the correct oil should be 90 grade, will the thicker stuff make any difference >
Re: Using EP 140 oil in small Mariner gear box
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:40 pm
by Keith.P
can not see why not I do.
Re: Using EP 140 oil in small Mariner gear box
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:26 pm
by Vic
The insides of the Mariner gearbox are not made of the same corrosion resistant materials that a Seagull gears and bearings are made of.
Therefore use a recommended outboard engine gear oil which will contain emulsifiers and corrosion inhibitors to guard against the effects of water ingress.
Re: Using EP 140 oil in small Mariner gear box
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:47 pm
by rosbullterier
I assume your Mariner gearbox has shaft oils seals?
The purpose of using the thickest oil available in an older Seagull is to permit a usable (thinner) emulsification when the water passes along the non sealed propeller shaft into the gearbox oil.
Which is why an annual oil change is recommended.
Very agricultural.
Use the oil recommended by Mariner to save the power lost pushing the gears around in thick Seagull treacle. You don't start with enough to waste. Marine gearboxes are supercooled rushing through the water - there is no heat to thin down the oil.
Re: Using EP 140 oil in small Mariner gear box
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:57 pm
by 5876roger
Thank you all for the advice. Having changed the oil and used it a couple of times I now have and oil water emulsion in the box, so I guess oil seals have gone.
Re: Using EP 140 oil in small Mariner gear box
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:54 pm
by Vic
You dont give any details of your Mariner.
You should be able to find an owners manual in the download center at
http://www.brunswickmarineemea.com/;jse ... 6i5j4cl3g8
You will also find a year identifier there too although I find the one at
http://www.storesonline.com/site/573683/page/599222 easier to use.
You will find exploded parts diagrams at
http://www.crowleymarine.com/parts.cfm although possibly only for American made models
Re: Using EP 140 oil in small Mariner gear box
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:37 pm
by 5876roger
Thank you very much for that info, I had been searching for such links without success. Thanks.
Re: Using EP 140 oil in small Mariner gear box
Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:49 pm
by 5876roger
Forgot to say it is a 2M 2hp which I now know is 1983/4
Re: Using EP 140 oil in small Mariner gear box
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 1:41 pm
by Collector Inspector
Hey Vic, what a great download site that is Mate!
You wouldn't know where I could source a manual for pre 1966 Mercs?
My 1961 Merc 60 6hp is in the middle of anything I can find ie later than 58 and ealier than 66.
Regards
B
Re: Using EP 140 oil in small Mariner gear box
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 11:02 am
by Collector Inspector
I understand as probably a hard ask with that
Re: Using EP 140 oil in small Mariner gear box
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:45 pm
by Vic
The Brunswick marine site is the only place I know of for Merc manuals.