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Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:44 pm
by atoyot
I came across the listing of a stolen Seagull here on this website, and while I can't help to recover it I did find the addition of a bicycle alternator ("generator") to the arrangement quite interesting.

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Would the owner, or anyone else who was bold enough to try such a thing, please comment upon the life that one received from that kind of hookup? I'm just dopey enough to try to put a 12-volt alternator onto a 40+ just to say i tried it.
-Ted
Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:54 pm
by Vic
Warning That picture sent my anti virus programme into overdriveAnd I have some program loaded that I dont want
It says its detected 21 threats and is demanding money ..... I'm stuffed
Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:28 pm
by Rex NZ
EXCELLENT
I was thinking to mount a Lucas 12v generator from a MF-28 tractor, as these are fairly well sealed. Would have been bulky & ugly
However, this is much neater & more compact
Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:31 pm
by Keith.P
It says its detected 21 threats and is demanding money ..... I'm stuffed
Its a dynamo its charging

Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:51 pm
by Vic
That picture not caused my problem then ?
Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:57 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
Looked ok to me.
There is quite a bit of Rogue/Fake Antivirus Malware about at the moment.
Google it and it will tell you how to get rid of it.
H-A
Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:30 pm
by Vic
Its Antimalware Doctor
General advice seems to be to get professional help unless you really know what you are doing
Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:36 am
by Collector Inspector
Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:48 am
by Vic
Thanks I'll give that a try later.
Now I realise its a fake I can relax a bit and once its stopped from task manager its not a problem until the next boot up.
Mystery where it suddenly came from. I clicked on the picture at the start of this thread, several times in fact, believing it was a clickable thumbnail and that is when all hell broke loose.
Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:28 am
by atoyot
OK..... now, back to the original subject. Anyone else crazy enough to have tried this? Even one amp (possibly .6) would operate my LED running lights at night.
Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:27 am
by Keith.P
The original dynamo from the 1930s was 12V but it was only rated for about .23 amp and about 2.7 watts.
In Germany the law on bicycle dynamo is, 3W (6V) or 6W (12V) output of a standard bicycle dynamo has to be reached by about 10 KPH.
( I must be better thing to do)
I will all depend on what type of dynamo you get hold of.
I do have an old dynamo set-up for a seagull but never used it, as I have no intention to do any motoring at night, especially with a seagull.

Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:49 pm
by phil
Wouldn't it be a lot neater and perhaps easier to place a charging coil inside the flywheel on the stator plate and run the output through a rectifier? I have a McCulloch outboard that uses that setup for a 4 amp alternator. Of course its a 28 hp motor. May take some experiment to get the correct number of windings on some laminations.
A starting point may be to take a dead ignition coil and see how many turns the primary has, I think many outboard primaries work at about 6 volts, so perhaps 2.1-2.2 times the number of primary turns, #20 magnet wire for 1 amp output at 13.5 volts [for charging] if memory serves.
Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:01 pm
by Hugz
Or get a Seagull one to be used with CDI ignition.

Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:00 pm
by Keith.P
Whats CDI ignition.
The only outboard I have with CDI is the 84 Yamaha 9.9b, no charging coils though, not that I will ever be use anyway.
I do have a motor with a BTH magneto, most of the old smaller motors never had charging coils, unless it was electric start.
Re: Bicycle generator on a Seagull - example shown
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:17 pm
by Hugz
A CDI does seem to be an antithesis to what a Seagull should be.
