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weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:06 pm
by bruce nickerson
Been looking everyplace but the right one to find the weight of the various models. Am finishing a small pram/punt (8 foot length x 4ft beam) and am concerned about the weight of my Seagull, with or without its feathers. Advice, info pls?

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:21 pm
by Horsley-Anarak
Look on the main site there is loads of info there.

http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/i_ ... 20copy.jpg

Sales brochures have weights.

H-A

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:59 pm
by Vic
My 40 Plus std shaft weighs 13.64 kg with an empty tank. I use that on a 10ft 10" Mirror dinghy

My 40 Featherweight weighs 13.56kg with about 2/3 tank of fuel.. I use that on an 8ft pram dinghy

A 2.5 hp 4 stroke Suzuki is 13.0 kg . Tohatsu ( many makes are rebadged Tohatsus) 18.4 kg, Yamaha 17 kg, 2.3 hp Honda 13.5 kg.

Small two strokes were generally lighter than current 4 stokes Eg a 2 hp 2 stroke Yamaha was only 10kg.

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:53 pm
by Gannet
Hi,
You could consider a Forty Minus. The sales brochure states 26lbs (ie 11.8kg).
My SJM weighs about this(just checked it with a spring balance) and is certainly good for my 8ft pram dinghy.
Cheers
Jeremy

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:51 pm
by bruce nickerson
will my century plus overwhelm my pram?

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:54 am
by Rob Ripley
... will my century plus overwhelm my pram? ...
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Not a problem on mine !

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:43 am
by bruce nickerson
Nice pic. What's her name? ENVY might be nice, as in green with...
Familiar with the Bolger/Payson "Instant Boat" series? Look up instant boats website. Nie stuff. Mine is thte "Elegant Punt." Will also be fitted with a sail.

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 2:06 pm
by Rob Ripley
Used to be named "Green Pea", and here's another powered by the C100.

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 5:44 pm
by bruce nickerson
Rob:

Good on ya.

Check out this webaite. The boat I have almost finished is shown on thte bottom of the page. Ever build your own boat? These are as much fun as the Seagulls.

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:07 pm
by Rob Ripley
G'day Bruce .... I only build my own boats, have to, cause I keep 'aquiring' Seagulls !

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:19 am
by bruce nickerson
Sorry I didn't give you the link:

http://instantboats.com/

Here's another about Dynamite Payson and Phil Bolger, originators of the Instant Boats.

http://bangordailynews.com/2011/03/26/n ... yson-dies/

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:43 am
by Rob Ripley
I guess Bolger/Payson and co. have their proven ideas ... I prefer to go my own way to design and build boats to suit my requirements, one of is to suit a Seagull.
Here's another example ...

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Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:46 am
by Rob Ripley
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Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:01 pm
by bruce nickerson
Beautiful!!! I don't have the patience or skill to tackle anything like this. I spent my younger days racing an MG rather than learning woodworking skills. Now in the twighlight of my years (74 in June) I am more interested in getting on the water than butchering wood and crreating sawdust and wood shavings. Picked up on Seagulls when my MG demanded too much time to prepare for next week's event. Also less expensive. And as an Anglophile they are still endearing examples of British engineering.

I like the lines of your boat, the wineglass transom, etc. Is she lapstrake?

Re: weight, not oil but motor

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:09 pm
by Rob Ripley
Hello Bruce, I gave up my MG TD after 21 engine rebuilds (sleeved block etc) and a few Gymkanas and high speed interstate trips. And as I'm approaching 70 I've slowed down building boats and restoring Seagulls for the boats.