SD on the bay
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- Charles uk
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Re: SD on the bay
Well that stirred up some knowledgeable well researched discussion from members that know what they're talking about.
Thanks
Thanks
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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NIce pic of that old SD and side mount bracket
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I have two other SDs with bowl closer to transom with non standard fuel pipes which again suggest they have been changed. Interesting thought re pipe close to exhaust to heat fuel. As the SD was recommended to run a pint to the gallon (1 to 8 ) could this be the reason to preheat fuel? I generally find when running them for a while the tank and fuel heats up anyway.
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All the SDs I have seen with the original copper pipe seem to have the float bowl rearward of the carb. My SDP which is number 11000ish has the float bowl forward of the carb with a metal fuel pipe. Could it be from around early post war the reason for having the float bowl to the rear was deemed to be not needed? Hence the move to forward float bowls, with longer straight fuel pipes?
I've seen an advert somewhere that does mention preheated carburation of some sort?
I've seen an advert somewhere that does mention preheated carburation of some sort?
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This is a great picture thanks Charles

This answers so many SD questions.
Black painted tiller arm
Rubber tiller grip
Unpainted cylinder
Float bowl to rear
Pipe running near exhaust
No chrome on drive tube
Trumpet on carb.
Any more anyone ?
H-A
This answers so many SD questions.
Black painted tiller arm
Rubber tiller grip
Unpainted cylinder
Float bowl to rear
Pipe running near exhaust
No chrome on drive tube
Trumpet on carb.
Any more anyone ?
H-A
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One hell of an ugly bracket!
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Yes but I would like one, how sad is thatNiander101 wrote:One hell of an ugly bracket!

Is it one of these.
This photo shows one I think
This must prove that SDs saw active service.
H-A
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H-A I posted that very same picture a while back and it was poo-pooed. I personally think you are right. I particularly like the guy on the bike with a fag marching the prisoners across the bridge!
Other SD features - Cast alloy tank brackets, bronze carb tops & copper magneto covers (Sometimes) Also those "Dover" grips, which seem impossible to remove without destroying them. Amal long thin throttle lever, bakelite spark plug cap? Steel tank of course.
Incidently, I have just fitted my first replica SD fuel pipe to my SD. Moderately happy with it, but profile is not quite right.
Can't beat a bit of SD mania
Other SD features - Cast alloy tank brackets, bronze carb tops & copper magneto covers (Sometimes) Also those "Dover" grips, which seem impossible to remove without destroying them. Amal long thin throttle lever, bakelite spark plug cap? Steel tank of course.
Incidently, I have just fitted my first replica SD fuel pipe to my SD. Moderately happy with it, but profile is not quite right.
Can't beat a bit of SD mania

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Has anybody got a photo of an SD with one of those army brackets actually fitted?
Or even, does anybody have one of those brackets?
Or even, does anybody have one of those brackets?
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I think they were rubber grips not the hard plastic dover grips that you see post war.Oyster 49 wrote: Also those "Dover" grips
H-A
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My SDP has the dover grip, and so does the original engine (SD4000ish) I have with a steel tiller, that is a future project. Interesting detail.
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There are at least 2 of those transom brackets that I know of, both are owned by members of this forum, they're a fairly monstorus device of no use unless you've got the boat they were built for.
Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.
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This looks like the pontoon boat

FBE MK111
Oyster I am sure that the picture you posted does show a Seagull bracket.
There can be no mistaking that for a seagull bracket, I would say.
H-A

FBE MK111
Oyster I am sure that the picture you posted does show a Seagull bracket.
There can be no mistaking that for a seagull bracket, I would say.
H-A
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The Britannia bracket was very similar, can you help Monty stubble?
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Nice pics H-A, I think you are right there about it being the seagull bracket. We need to keep flushing out these pictures and details! Wartime FBEs. Folding Boat Equipment. I do love the way the Army name their kit.