D9666 restoration
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Re: D9666 restoration
Ok then, the gearbox.
I'll come clean and own up now so you dont think i've just been really lucky.
I took this to work today and took it apart with the help of an oxy-acetylene gas torch. (works wonders)
It all came apart quite easy really, i was very surprised. Normally i end up cursing and swearing a lot trying to get the drive tube out of the pump housing, but this one almost fell apart!
My main concern is with the skeg and pump housing at the moment. I've seen quite a few 102's with the exhaust mounting "fudged" like this, but i'm going to try and weld this with aluminium. Has anybody tried this yet? any help on this would be good if not it'll be a steep learning curve on a piece of scrap aluminium before i attempt anything on this.
Not sure what the idea was behind the 4 washers behind the front collar, maybe a running repair carried out years ago maybe.My SDP doesn't have these washers?
Also, unusual attachment arrangement of the front cover with studs and nuts instead of the normal screws! (weird).
Propshaft bushing is a bit sloppy for my liking, so i will have to see if i've got a spare to replace it.
So far, so good. Nothing out of the ordinary so far.
Now lets get the crud out and have a better look!
I'll come clean and own up now so you dont think i've just been really lucky.
I took this to work today and took it apart with the help of an oxy-acetylene gas torch. (works wonders)
It all came apart quite easy really, i was very surprised. Normally i end up cursing and swearing a lot trying to get the drive tube out of the pump housing, but this one almost fell apart!
My main concern is with the skeg and pump housing at the moment. I've seen quite a few 102's with the exhaust mounting "fudged" like this, but i'm going to try and weld this with aluminium. Has anybody tried this yet? any help on this would be good if not it'll be a steep learning curve on a piece of scrap aluminium before i attempt anything on this.
Not sure what the idea was behind the 4 washers behind the front collar, maybe a running repair carried out years ago maybe.My SDP doesn't have these washers?
Also, unusual attachment arrangement of the front cover with studs and nuts instead of the normal screws! (weird).
Propshaft bushing is a bit sloppy for my liking, so i will have to see if i've got a spare to replace it.
So far, so good. Nothing out of the ordinary so far.
Now lets get the crud out and have a better look!
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Re: D9666 restoration
All the usual suspects in here then, but NO GREASE, just salt deposits and gritty sand! Nasty
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Re: D9666 restoration
Oh boy! Lots of corrosion. Why don't you try to get another gearbox? It shouldn't be too difficult to source one. Maybe Oyster49 has a spare one unless he gave it away. Too much trouble repairing this one I would say.
Keep posting and good luck!
Keep posting and good luck!
I love the 10600/145 turns!!!
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hi stelios
i like welding.
i've done lots of steel in the past but never aluminium. always wanted to try something like this but never had the chance.
Gently does it i think!
j
i like welding.
i've done lots of steel in the past but never aluminium. always wanted to try something like this but never had the chance.
Gently does it i think!
j
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Sure it does. As far as I know you will need to reach the healthy metal to weld aluminum.
Have fun!
Have fun!
I love the 10600/145 turns!!!
Re: D9666 restoration
I saw a product in the store the other day called liquid aluminum..Its a 2 part epoxy like deal...could something like that work for you? It has a shine when sanded and buffed aswell as strong as ever.
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yep
i've seen this sort of stuff before and does work quite well.
I think i would need to see how well it would polish up before making a decision on using it.
In the interests of remaining "authentic", i think i will have a go at trying a test piece first before commiting all the way.
You never know, it might turn out ok and be just as strong and robust as the original casting. Wait and see!
jon
i've seen this sort of stuff before and does work quite well.
I think i would need to see how well it would polish up before making a decision on using it.
In the interests of remaining "authentic", i think i will have a go at trying a test piece first before commiting all the way.
You never know, it might turn out ok and be just as strong and robust as the original casting. Wait and see!
jon
Re: D9666 restoration
I have a spare direct drive gearbox, 2 nippled type, that has been stripped and rebuilt and is in very good order. This will be from the similar era to your D9666.
PM me if you are interested.
PM me if you are interested.
Re: D9666 restoration
I've also got a new nickel fuel pipe, bent to the correct shape, just needs the end fittings and nuts. Your welcome to it!
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Re: D9666 restoration
adrian
fuel pipe would be good as it's got the "clear" pipe at the moment but leaks a little at the tap end from the fitting.
jon
fuel pipe would be good as it's got the "clear" pipe at the moment but leaks a little at the tap end from the fitting.
jon
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Does your brass bracket have any facility to hold up at tilt position? For that matter did the side mounts have that too? Have to say the cast quality is appalling and CharlesP is correct in saying they are weak. Though this one does have a lot of wear where the motor hooks onto so no doubt it has been used a lot. Good for display only I think.
Hard to get a decent shine due to pitted surface.
You can see on the third horizontal bar down where the engine mount (alloy) hooks on that it is worn either end.
Ok, had a look at my other bracket and it has a later engine mount but no tilt lever. But then again the one on the main SOS site does http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/i_ ... %20102.jpg also note the height adjuster at the bottom of the picture.
The engine mount that hooks onto the brass bracket.
Hard to get a decent shine due to pitted surface.
You can see on the third horizontal bar down where the engine mount (alloy) hooks on that it is worn either end.
Ok, had a look at my other bracket and it has a later engine mount but no tilt lever. But then again the one on the main SOS site does http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/i_ ... %20102.jpg also note the height adjuster at the bottom of the picture.
The engine mount that hooks onto the brass bracket.
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Re: D9666 restoration
I love the 10600/145 turns!!!
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beercan is gonna hate me for this?
as removed from d9666 not yet cleaned.
notice the bent pin? it'll need straightening
hugz
the main mounting support on this one looks like brass?
i'm not going to use this mount on d9666
this will go on an SD.
as removed from d9666 not yet cleaned.
notice the bent pin? it'll need straightening
hugz
the main mounting support on this one looks like brass?
i'm not going to use this mount on d9666
this will go on an SD.
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Re: D9666 restoration
Both transoms sucks, box them up and I will send you my address
Mind the difference. Hugz transom has two thick brass rods holding it together where mine and yours has only one. It's not wrong though as mine has only one big hole where the second thick rod is located. The other side of mine has a small hole from which the brass chain is mounted.
Mind the difference. Hugz transom has two thick brass rods holding it together where mine and yours has only one. It's not wrong though as mine has only one big hole where the second thick rod is located. The other side of mine has a small hole from which the brass chain is mounted.
I love the 10600/145 turns!!!