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Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:58 pm
by Niander101
Its your macro camera!

Dont worry about that scratch but take a high spot down if there is one

dont forget these are very tough simple motors

and the pin should push through

Try the AD rod for size on the crank
whats the ring gap in the bore?
compression is good though isnt it

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:16 pm
by Charles uk
I expect it will run ok with that bent rod, as it didn't break before there is no reason why it should now, as this is a collector's motor, good for short freshwater runs, not for trips to North Africa!

It takes a lot to bend a rod like that, I've only bent 1 & that was because the bigend seized, when it cooled down, it started & ran another 36 miles around Bermuda only seizing 1 more time.
That rod didn't like 6000 revs but was almost ok at 4200, I came 2nd in my class that day, but there were only 2 boats in it! can't remember which year, but was using a boat called Juk Hard, that was my first try around Bermuda.

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:37 pm
by Stelios_Rjk
Tough indeed!

The gap must be around 0.35mm. I have a feeler gauge that goes 0.50, 0.40, 0.30.
0.30mm pass through easily, 0.40mm stuck a little.
I can't measure compression but when I pull the cord I felt it has a lot. Firing in addition was stronger than in my silver century in my point of view.

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:17 pm
by Oyster 49
I would just fettle that score on the crankshaft using some medium wet and dry. Nothing to lose sleep about.

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:47 am
by Charles uk
It looks more like a fracture than a score on that picture, but it's a job to tell.

Any 102cc Seagull crank & rod will fit.

But your getting to the point of "beyond economic repair" why not refurb all the good bits & wait for one to turn up with a dead cylinder, I've seen 3 or 4 of those in the last couple of years, that were bought for spares.

There are very very few spare cylinders, but you've got one, lucky man!

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:38 am
by Stelios_Rjk
In that point of view yes I am lucky. That cylinder looks in great condition. But I would prefer with a petrol tank and a flywheel (optional) to have a complete engine. Now the story will have to continue for some time plus more money to achieve my goal.

If I use a silver century crank assembly would that be fatal?

edit:
Whooops I understand 102model instead of 102cc. I have a good crank assembly, all good with this matter.

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:39 am
by Stelios_Rjk
So here we are.

I have received almost every part I need thanks to the great generosity of Jan and Adrian. Thank you guys, my SD wouldn't become a complete engine without your support. And John's of course. :D

I won't post pictures of all the parts yet. I think I will post every part I restore.



As received..
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In pieces and polished
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After electrolytic derusting
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After zinc electroplating
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Ready!
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I think I will paint black the parts with the zinc, it must be better painted.

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:15 pm
by Oyster 49
Great work Stelios! It's great to see your engine moving on. :D

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:49 pm
by Niander101
Is that brass painted ?
or is that nut painted with brass paint?
as it looks the same colour as the lever

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:47 pm
by Oyster 49
The nut is brass also.

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:09 pm
by Niander101
O yes of course...just looked at mine

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:12 pm
by Stelios_Rjk
?

Everything is brass apart from the gray parts which is steel zinc plated.

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:17 pm
by Niander101
Yes its cleared up now :D

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:07 pm
by Stelios_Rjk
Grinding/polishing Sunday... :D
(Thank you Jan :wink: )

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I think it's obvious that this magneto had a hard life. I did what I could.

I don't know how these dents could be cured, filling and then grinding etc? I think I will leave it this way though. I don't feel bad about them, let's say they are scars of her hard life!

Re: Santa Claus passed by my neighborhood (SD!!)

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:28 pm
by Niander101
Dont worry about it i spose it sparks? thats the main thing!
and highly polished and mint doesnt look right on these old things not to me anyway...but then thats personal preferance.
but ye some butchers been at it with a hammer sometime in its life :(
btw john has new cover plates...not copper unfortunatly.